After having interviewed Alan Hills (Middlesex Chairman Blind Association) he gave us a great insight about how and what it feels like to be blind. He suggested that we looked into a BBC radio talk series ' Does He Take Sugar.' This radio series was launched roughly around 1973 where disabled people put views forward and highlighted the real need for everyone to accept that all have the same right to dignity, respect and access.
These were focused on current events, people where interviewed, stories told and poetry read.
The effect of the launch was tremendous. Disabled people felt they had a voice that people listened. Normal people in society realised that they had been causing problems for many and learned to adapt. Things gradually changed.
There was one piece of simple advice from the series affected one listener greatly.
"Make eye contact, if necessary, get on the same level, and do your best to make both of you comfortable. Smile. Talk naturally - assume intelligence lives behind those eyes.
Most people appreciate that you are making an effect, and will respond positively."
As told by some callers many people will happily tell you things if you ask them respectfully, but don't focus entirely on their disability - one caller, Beverley used to say "I am not my disability". They want to talk about politics, sports and all the things you want to talk about.
All in all, the information that we have gathered was very useful for our project especially the listeners and views of people who were on BBC's 'Does He Take Sugar' that was suggested by Alan Hills.
We all need the same services, the same products as everyone else. No-one likes to be ignored, so treat everyone as human beings. Oh, and for goodness' sake, ask them if they take sugar.
From what we have researched on about 'Does He Take Sugar' it has giving us a great insight to what and how disable people feel about society today. The benefits of knowing these information from blind people is so that we have a platform to what our room inside should be like etc.
Friday, 30 November 2007
Thursday, 29 November 2007
Wireless Headphones Continued:
Unfortunately we have encountered a problem with the headphones. The wire that runs from the receiver from the laptop is rather short and as a result will not be able to go on the ceiling which may cause problems regarding the clearness of signal.
However, we have tested the headphones within a similar space and the headphones work sufficiently even if the receiver is placed on a wall, as long as it is pointing towards the ceiling.
However, we have tested the headphones within a similar space and the headphones work sufficiently even if the receiver is placed on a wall, as long as it is pointing towards the ceiling.
Wireless Headphones
Sound is very important to the piece. The sound is the sole output from the work, and will determine the success of the piece. Obviously we want the user to be able to move freely around the room, enabling them to explore the piece as they wish. This left us with two options, either we could use speakers and play it into the room or the user could wear headphones. We decided that we would use wireless headphones in the piece. Wireless headphones will enable the user to move freely without trailing wires, which could be hazardous. The headphones would also mean that the sound is very individual to the user. The sound will move with the user, unlike if they were moving around a speaker system. The use of headphones will also prevent users waiting outside the room from overhearing anything and potentially forfeiting the mystery behind what is in the room, and changing the dynamics of the piece.
The receiver that comes with the headphones admits a wireless signal to the headphones transmitting the sound. As we don't know how the user will move around the room we have decided to attach it to the ceiling of the room which should rule out the possibility of losing signal.
The receiver that comes with the headphones admits a wireless signal to the headphones transmitting the sound. As we don't know how the user will move around the room we have decided to attach it to the ceiling of the room which should rule out the possibility of losing signal.
Wednesday, 28 November 2007
The Interview Continued
Obviously not all of the information that we got from the interview is relevant to our project. Therefore we have highlighted the key points from it, and illustrated how they can influence our project.
* experiences from hospitals
* various forms of blindness
* initial anger at lose of sight
* each blind person is unique
Alan highlighted the fact that even in a hospital it seems that people are unaware of how to deal with a blind person and not really adapted to treating them. This is something that we could convey within our project. Alan highlighted specific things such as not saying names, a generic white wash and a unfamiliarity.
We were previously aware that every blind person has a different condition and their sight can vary from complete blindness to being able to see outlines. Alan reiterated this in the interview. In the project we have decided to move away from the stereotypical representation of blindness by just using pitch black and have instead opted for an impaired vision, where the user will still have extremely limited vision.
Many people are extremely angry when the lose their sight and in particular in a situation like the one that we are trying to portray. Questions arise like: why me? etc. However, although this is a very important point, we felt that this would be up to the user, and such feelings would come as a result of the loss, consequently difficult for us to recreate. The users won't become fully immersed in the piece to the level wear they become angry as they will know that they will soon have their full sight back.
* experiences from hospitals
* various forms of blindness
* initial anger at lose of sight
* each blind person is unique
Alan highlighted the fact that even in a hospital it seems that people are unaware of how to deal with a blind person and not really adapted to treating them. This is something that we could convey within our project. Alan highlighted specific things such as not saying names, a generic white wash and a unfamiliarity.
We were previously aware that every blind person has a different condition and their sight can vary from complete blindness to being able to see outlines. Alan reiterated this in the interview. In the project we have decided to move away from the stereotypical representation of blindness by just using pitch black and have instead opted for an impaired vision, where the user will still have extremely limited vision.
Many people are extremely angry when the lose their sight and in particular in a situation like the one that we are trying to portray. Questions arise like: why me? etc. However, although this is a very important point, we felt that this would be up to the user, and such feelings would come as a result of the loss, consequently difficult for us to recreate. The users won't become fully immersed in the piece to the level wear they become angry as they will know that they will soon have their full sight back.
The Interview
Interview with Alan Hills - The chairman of The Middlesex Association for the Blind.
Alan lost his sight because of diabetes.
I lost my sight in 1996 as result of complications of diabetes. Previous to this I had noticed that my sight was getting worse and I spent a lot of time in hospital due to needed dialysis 4 times a week to clean out my kidneys. Over the next 6-9 months I became registered as blind and at around the same time I lost my kidneys and pancreas. However, I was lucky and had a transplant for them in July 1996. This obviously solved my kidney and pancreas problems and it technically meant that I was no longer diabetic, but did not have any effect on my eye condition.
During dialysis I used to do a lot of reading as I always have done throughout my life. Prior to 1996 I had very good vision. I was a company director of a major construction company that dealt with major construction projects, for example canary wharf. This was a very responsible job. However due to my illness I had to leave work in 1995, mainly for my own health and safety. Obviously it was a massive shock to lose my sight, but in my case it was a slow and gradual process, getting stronger and stronger glasses and other aids to help me. This eventually led to not being to read, my complete lose, the transplant and to today. Although the transplant of my kidneys and pancreas didn’t improve my eye condition it did stabilize it and it has remained pretty much the same for the last 11 years.
After the initial problem with coming to terms with blindness all I wanted to do was to see what I could with my life. As I said earlier I had been a very busy person in my sighted life, and it was not my nature to sit back and do nothing. I first went to a rehabilitation centre, where I tried several different support methods like the use of computers, which could enable a blind person like myself to carry on with normal everyday life. I found this process very useful. I didn’t realize how useful a computer is to a disable person’s life. In 1998 after I had sorted out my financial situation and my life a bit more sorted out I decided what I wanted to do with the rest of my life. I went to a college of further education and did a course in I.T. that was really pioneering stuff. In those days nobody really knew what to do with an impaired person and for the first six months of the course we just sat in the corner not really learning much. However, in the end I took the exams and got a qualification in I.T. From here I went on to do a teaching qualification so that I could pass my knowledge on to other blind people. For some years now I have been providing training to other visually impaired people. I have had to reduce the amount I do due to other health problems. The stuff that myself and others were teaching was such pioneering stuff it grew so big that we needed to employ full time staff and I stepped back allowing them to run the program.
I’m often asked what I miss the most, but you must remember that I’m only saying this from my point of view and that it is different for every blind person. Every blind person is an individual and is very different from each other. If you were sat here with my condition it would be very different for you than it is for me. Many different aspects can affect it, it can’t just be generalized. There is a big misconception that all blind people only see black. Most visually impaired see something. I have perception but can’t make out detail. I can for example see that you are wearing a red jumper, but I can’t see your face. This is made worse because you’re sat in a light background. I wouldn’t be able to recognize you if I met you again. I have preliverial vision to get around where I can get around safely. This also means that I can see better if I look from the outside of my eyes.
Obviously having no sight what so ever, like in your project, if your optic nerve is gone of course you'll see black. Very few people fall into this category, but it does happen.
If I was to describe my eye condition to you it will be like looking into a net curtain, everything is blurred. I obviously can't read printed words, but with the use of adaptive technology I am able to communicate.
Many people ask if I miss driving, my answer to this is no not really because I use to drive so much that it became a means to an end. What I personally miss the most is my work and reading. I’ve been able to overcome my problems with reading and writing with the aids of computers, I can now use mail on the Internet. For me and many other blind people this new way of communicating and access to information has transformed our lives.
Did you feel lonely when you first became blind?
Fortunately for me I do have a wife so I’m lucky. She is my main carer, so I did have good support. I’m also not a typical visually disable person to be honest with you. I'm not a type of person who sits back and let things happen, I want to go out there and live my life. I know lots of visually impaired people who have reacted differently. For example, I have a friend who is visually impaired who does all kinds of wild and adventurous things. Like bungee jumping, sky-dives, which just goes to show that if you have a mind to do it you can do it. Obviously there are limitations, both physically and practically but generally speaking.
To be honest I don’t see it like I have a problem with the world, it’s the sighted world that has a problem with me. It’s an awareness thing. Many people don’t understand me I think its an awareness thing, most people are not aware. People are often very nervous and don’t know how to approach me. When I’m out with my wife and we bump into people we know and they’ll ask her how I’m doing, why not ask me? The only problem with me is that I cannot see. I have a perfectly fine head; I just can’t read or write, a lot of society finds this hard to understand.
It’s the science world understanding that and more of the problems you’ll get in reality is that within a hospital scene that the people don’t understand the needs of the person, even in a hospital.
I do go to hospital very often. I'm involved in many associations; I am the chairman of Middlesex Association of the blind, I’m the chairman of the St Mary’s hospital kidney association, and also the secretary of the Harrow Blind social club. I do all my own work, nobody does anything for me reading or writing, and just try to get on and do thing the best I can. I’m not saying that I’m perfect, I have limitations, I just don’t sit back and expect everybody else to do it for me.
It’s amazing that in hospital and other medical places that they don’t understand the needs of visually impaired people. In my lifetime it has improved, but I can’t see it ever being integrated, well my lifetime, because they don’t understand, why would they. After all blind people are in a minority within society, only accounting for 2% of the population, which is very low.
I am an adaptive technology consultant, and I’m very interested in Iphone’s, mp3 players etc. I understand that blind people, especially younger people, but obviously they have problems because the world isn’t prepared for visual impaired people. It’s a sighted world and we have to accept that. However, I don’t think its wrong of us to expect people to be a little bit more aware, especially in a hospital environment. It still amazes me when people don’t say who they are, something which is extremely important to a visually impaired person. How can we be expected to know who people are without them introducing themselves, as we don’t have sight we can’t simply recognize somebody, its much harder with voices. They will just walk up and say “hello” its so easy to say “hello its Neal” but makes a huge difference. Even my neighbors after 11 years just say hello Alan. You do become familiar with voices after a while, but it takes a long time.
Did the loss of your sight effect your other senses?
No not really. People say your sense of hearing picks up a bit more but I don't think it does or did in my case. Obviously your hearing becomes more useful, so you are probably more aware, but I wouldn’t say it was improved. As it is now my main method of communication I find it very difficult when I can’t rely on it properly, when there is loud music for example. I don’t think my loss as heightened any other senses, like smell, you just become more aware of them.
What does it feel like to be in a situation where you are not familiar?
Well, that’s the most difficult thing for a visually impaired person really, when you enter environments that you’re not familiar with. You have to be organized and have to understand where things are. Fortunately for me I’ve always been an organized person, which helped when I lost my sight. A good example of when this happens is when you go to hotels and in particular the bathrooms there. Everything is typically white, which means that I can’t see anything at all, its like everything has gone. You can’t tell the difference between the sink, the toilet or the tiles, it just merges into one. For me I’d be able to work out where stuff was if there was some sort of contrast or colour, but often there is not. My wife usually gives me a tour around the room, which enables me to orientate myself and get a feel of where things are. This process takes a little time and without somebody to show me where stuff is would be very difficult and frustrating.
Once you have lost your sight it becomes very difficult to remember what it would be like to have sight again. You start to pay more attention to where things are, the layout of places and its things like this that allow me to cope with it all.
A particular example is that I can’t tell if a glass is full or empty, which results in a lot of broken glasses.
As I said situations have to be manipulated in slight ways to help a blind person however if you go into a hospital this doesn’t seem to be the case. No special adjustments are made like, examples include:
* Contrasts of rooms (very white), which is typically the worst colour for a visually impaired person
* I have to ask somebody to pour water for me, as I will often overfill it or spill it etc.
* Staff there don’t introduce themselves, doctors even walk around the beds without saying a word, expecting me to know who they are.
It’s the simple things that make a huge difference. I would just like people to be a bit more aware. Many people wouldn’t even know that I was blind to look at me, similar to a deaf person, but if you saw a person in a wheelchair you would automatically assume they were disabled. They’re isn’t always a sign, which is understandable but when I say that I’m registered Blind I don’t think its wrong to expect them to be alert to this, but this doesn’t always happen.
We can be our worst own enemies at times though. There is no reason why a visually impaired person should be rude to anybody. The situation that your doing in your piece is obviously highlighting a very dramatic experience. One minute your sighted and the next your not. My process was gradual, so I can’t really relate to that type of experience. Sometimes people can be very angry, Why me? etc.
We also have to be very careful how we handle these situations. You can almost get more out of life by being friendly. It’s how you go about it. I don't expect people to rush and help me because if I need them to I will ask and expect people to be understanding, I don’t want to ask for help, but sometimes I have to.
A classic example is when you assist a visually impaired person to cross the road. They may come across rude, and there is no excuse for this. We don’t always need help, but still there is no reason to be rude. Sight conditions can change from day to day, which can affect the person’s mood.
Of course losing my sight has had a great effect on my life, and there isn’t a moment that goes by where I don’t dream about my old job, which may sound weird to you, but I did really enjoy my job. Many visually impaired people find it hard to find jobs over 75% are unemployed, but there is no reason for this. Blind people still have perfectly sound brains in their heads, and could job to the same level as the sighted (obviously there are limits again). People see a blind person, but don’t really see the person and just see the disability. There are benefits available for such instances, but its not the same as working. Work provides stimulation for the brain something that is hard to obtain
The biggest loss is independence, being blind limits your independence. You can’t just jump in the car and nip to the shops anymore. My goal is to try and keep a level of independence and not let everybody do everything for me, but sometimes you don’t have any other choice and you have to ask for help. It’s a horrible thing to do, because then you become somebody else’s timescale. It has and does cause fiction between my wife and I, if I ask her to read something for me because its important, I do have means to do this but it can become very tiring. Sometimes she might be doing other stuff or trying to relax, so it becomes a burden which I don’t like being. I do go out on my own as I’m fortunate enough to have a guide dog, but still I can’t always do it.
You have to remember that you are only talking to one person about my experiences. I think I'm a person who's adjusted very well to my loss, but as I said there are people who take these things very badly, it can be very hard to come to terms with it.
I would say that the best way to do it is to accept that it has happened and to overcome it. I try fill my day, my week, and my year. I do a lot of volunteer work and deal with people who are still coming to terms with it. That happens a lot, several disabled people volunteer to help for disabled groups, which is good for the people who need help as the workers can understand better. It would be very difficult for you to put yourself in my position, just like if I was sighted it would be hard for me to be you.
There is no fortunately a lot of training material around, but a lot of it is common sense. As we have already touched upon with stuff like simple organization, things being in the right place etc. Also things like leaving doors open and the mobility issues like slops, steps, curbs etc. All of this common sense makes a huge difference to us, but sighted people don’t even think about this, why would they? Its about putting yourself in others positions a bit more.
A person who has just lost their sight would obviously be very traumatized, depending on the condition of the patient. Depending on how they have lost their sight, and the nature of accident. If it’s a sudden knock, they will be traumatized for years and it would take a while to come to terms with it. They would need a lot of support from their family and the system. Everybody around them would be confused as with what to do regarding you, but will obviously be caring by nature. You could be dead lucky, and get a nurse who was really understanding, but it would be luck. Regardless of any level of care that person won’t be equipped to deal with the situation. Unlike myself, I had time to adjust. I don’t think anything that I have said today would be going through the mind of a person who lost their sight in that manner. It is a very dramatic thing to happen to somebody. I don’t think you’d be able to get in touch with anybody today that has gone through that experience that would be willing to talk about it as it would be that traumatic.
The family is always the best comfort, due to natural instinct. As I said you might get a good doctor or nurse that understand but it doesn’t always happen.
This situation could be even more dramatic for your target audience. This would be because they haven’t seen much of life. I lost my sight at 50 so I had 50 years of sight, which is a lot of experience. A teenager would focus more on what they can’t do anymore, but the important thing is to think what you can do. If you put your mind to it you can do anything, but this is something that has to be learnt and won’t come instantly.
Computers and things like that have opened up a different world to all disabled people and life can be a lot better than you’d first expect, but you wouldn’t realize when the trauma takes place. You concentrate on all the downsides, can’t go to the pub anymore, can’t go to the football match etc.
It’s a very interesting area because there is a big gap. There’s the children going to school, who are looked after by mainstream education, but I get lots and lots of parents of people of your sort of age, sixth formers etc (our target group) where the support is lost. The parents ask where they can find support, what they can do, its almost as if they are forgotten about after mainstream education. They want the same sort of things that you do, i.e. the internet, mobile phones, mp3 players etc. There are ways around this, and if you can get past the initial thoughts of missing out in life, it’s amazing what you can do
Alan lost his sight because of diabetes.
I lost my sight in 1996 as result of complications of diabetes. Previous to this I had noticed that my sight was getting worse and I spent a lot of time in hospital due to needed dialysis 4 times a week to clean out my kidneys. Over the next 6-9 months I became registered as blind and at around the same time I lost my kidneys and pancreas. However, I was lucky and had a transplant for them in July 1996. This obviously solved my kidney and pancreas problems and it technically meant that I was no longer diabetic, but did not have any effect on my eye condition.
During dialysis I used to do a lot of reading as I always have done throughout my life. Prior to 1996 I had very good vision. I was a company director of a major construction company that dealt with major construction projects, for example canary wharf. This was a very responsible job. However due to my illness I had to leave work in 1995, mainly for my own health and safety. Obviously it was a massive shock to lose my sight, but in my case it was a slow and gradual process, getting stronger and stronger glasses and other aids to help me. This eventually led to not being to read, my complete lose, the transplant and to today. Although the transplant of my kidneys and pancreas didn’t improve my eye condition it did stabilize it and it has remained pretty much the same for the last 11 years.
After the initial problem with coming to terms with blindness all I wanted to do was to see what I could with my life. As I said earlier I had been a very busy person in my sighted life, and it was not my nature to sit back and do nothing. I first went to a rehabilitation centre, where I tried several different support methods like the use of computers, which could enable a blind person like myself to carry on with normal everyday life. I found this process very useful. I didn’t realize how useful a computer is to a disable person’s life. In 1998 after I had sorted out my financial situation and my life a bit more sorted out I decided what I wanted to do with the rest of my life. I went to a college of further education and did a course in I.T. that was really pioneering stuff. In those days nobody really knew what to do with an impaired person and for the first six months of the course we just sat in the corner not really learning much. However, in the end I took the exams and got a qualification in I.T. From here I went on to do a teaching qualification so that I could pass my knowledge on to other blind people. For some years now I have been providing training to other visually impaired people. I have had to reduce the amount I do due to other health problems. The stuff that myself and others were teaching was such pioneering stuff it grew so big that we needed to employ full time staff and I stepped back allowing them to run the program.
I’m often asked what I miss the most, but you must remember that I’m only saying this from my point of view and that it is different for every blind person. Every blind person is an individual and is very different from each other. If you were sat here with my condition it would be very different for you than it is for me. Many different aspects can affect it, it can’t just be generalized. There is a big misconception that all blind people only see black. Most visually impaired see something. I have perception but can’t make out detail. I can for example see that you are wearing a red jumper, but I can’t see your face. This is made worse because you’re sat in a light background. I wouldn’t be able to recognize you if I met you again. I have preliverial vision to get around where I can get around safely. This also means that I can see better if I look from the outside of my eyes.
Obviously having no sight what so ever, like in your project, if your optic nerve is gone of course you'll see black. Very few people fall into this category, but it does happen.
If I was to describe my eye condition to you it will be like looking into a net curtain, everything is blurred. I obviously can't read printed words, but with the use of adaptive technology I am able to communicate.
Many people ask if I miss driving, my answer to this is no not really because I use to drive so much that it became a means to an end. What I personally miss the most is my work and reading. I’ve been able to overcome my problems with reading and writing with the aids of computers, I can now use mail on the Internet. For me and many other blind people this new way of communicating and access to information has transformed our lives.
Did you feel lonely when you first became blind?
Fortunately for me I do have a wife so I’m lucky. She is my main carer, so I did have good support. I’m also not a typical visually disable person to be honest with you. I'm not a type of person who sits back and let things happen, I want to go out there and live my life. I know lots of visually impaired people who have reacted differently. For example, I have a friend who is visually impaired who does all kinds of wild and adventurous things. Like bungee jumping, sky-dives, which just goes to show that if you have a mind to do it you can do it. Obviously there are limitations, both physically and practically but generally speaking.
To be honest I don’t see it like I have a problem with the world, it’s the sighted world that has a problem with me. It’s an awareness thing. Many people don’t understand me I think its an awareness thing, most people are not aware. People are often very nervous and don’t know how to approach me. When I’m out with my wife and we bump into people we know and they’ll ask her how I’m doing, why not ask me? The only problem with me is that I cannot see. I have a perfectly fine head; I just can’t read or write, a lot of society finds this hard to understand.
It’s the science world understanding that and more of the problems you’ll get in reality is that within a hospital scene that the people don’t understand the needs of the person, even in a hospital.
I do go to hospital very often. I'm involved in many associations; I am the chairman of Middlesex Association of the blind, I’m the chairman of the St Mary’s hospital kidney association, and also the secretary of the Harrow Blind social club. I do all my own work, nobody does anything for me reading or writing, and just try to get on and do thing the best I can. I’m not saying that I’m perfect, I have limitations, I just don’t sit back and expect everybody else to do it for me.
It’s amazing that in hospital and other medical places that they don’t understand the needs of visually impaired people. In my lifetime it has improved, but I can’t see it ever being integrated, well my lifetime, because they don’t understand, why would they. After all blind people are in a minority within society, only accounting for 2% of the population, which is very low.
I am an adaptive technology consultant, and I’m very interested in Iphone’s, mp3 players etc. I understand that blind people, especially younger people, but obviously they have problems because the world isn’t prepared for visual impaired people. It’s a sighted world and we have to accept that. However, I don’t think its wrong of us to expect people to be a little bit more aware, especially in a hospital environment. It still amazes me when people don’t say who they are, something which is extremely important to a visually impaired person. How can we be expected to know who people are without them introducing themselves, as we don’t have sight we can’t simply recognize somebody, its much harder with voices. They will just walk up and say “hello” its so easy to say “hello its Neal” but makes a huge difference. Even my neighbors after 11 years just say hello Alan. You do become familiar with voices after a while, but it takes a long time.
Did the loss of your sight effect your other senses?
No not really. People say your sense of hearing picks up a bit more but I don't think it does or did in my case. Obviously your hearing becomes more useful, so you are probably more aware, but I wouldn’t say it was improved. As it is now my main method of communication I find it very difficult when I can’t rely on it properly, when there is loud music for example. I don’t think my loss as heightened any other senses, like smell, you just become more aware of them.
What does it feel like to be in a situation where you are not familiar?
Well, that’s the most difficult thing for a visually impaired person really, when you enter environments that you’re not familiar with. You have to be organized and have to understand where things are. Fortunately for me I’ve always been an organized person, which helped when I lost my sight. A good example of when this happens is when you go to hotels and in particular the bathrooms there. Everything is typically white, which means that I can’t see anything at all, its like everything has gone. You can’t tell the difference between the sink, the toilet or the tiles, it just merges into one. For me I’d be able to work out where stuff was if there was some sort of contrast or colour, but often there is not. My wife usually gives me a tour around the room, which enables me to orientate myself and get a feel of where things are. This process takes a little time and without somebody to show me where stuff is would be very difficult and frustrating.
Once you have lost your sight it becomes very difficult to remember what it would be like to have sight again. You start to pay more attention to where things are, the layout of places and its things like this that allow me to cope with it all.
A particular example is that I can’t tell if a glass is full or empty, which results in a lot of broken glasses.
As I said situations have to be manipulated in slight ways to help a blind person however if you go into a hospital this doesn’t seem to be the case. No special adjustments are made like, examples include:
* Contrasts of rooms (very white), which is typically the worst colour for a visually impaired person
* I have to ask somebody to pour water for me, as I will often overfill it or spill it etc.
* Staff there don’t introduce themselves, doctors even walk around the beds without saying a word, expecting me to know who they are.
It’s the simple things that make a huge difference. I would just like people to be a bit more aware. Many people wouldn’t even know that I was blind to look at me, similar to a deaf person, but if you saw a person in a wheelchair you would automatically assume they were disabled. They’re isn’t always a sign, which is understandable but when I say that I’m registered Blind I don’t think its wrong to expect them to be alert to this, but this doesn’t always happen.
We can be our worst own enemies at times though. There is no reason why a visually impaired person should be rude to anybody. The situation that your doing in your piece is obviously highlighting a very dramatic experience. One minute your sighted and the next your not. My process was gradual, so I can’t really relate to that type of experience. Sometimes people can be very angry, Why me? etc.
We also have to be very careful how we handle these situations. You can almost get more out of life by being friendly. It’s how you go about it. I don't expect people to rush and help me because if I need them to I will ask and expect people to be understanding, I don’t want to ask for help, but sometimes I have to.
A classic example is when you assist a visually impaired person to cross the road. They may come across rude, and there is no excuse for this. We don’t always need help, but still there is no reason to be rude. Sight conditions can change from day to day, which can affect the person’s mood.
Of course losing my sight has had a great effect on my life, and there isn’t a moment that goes by where I don’t dream about my old job, which may sound weird to you, but I did really enjoy my job. Many visually impaired people find it hard to find jobs over 75% are unemployed, but there is no reason for this. Blind people still have perfectly sound brains in their heads, and could job to the same level as the sighted (obviously there are limits again). People see a blind person, but don’t really see the person and just see the disability. There are benefits available for such instances, but its not the same as working. Work provides stimulation for the brain something that is hard to obtain
The biggest loss is independence, being blind limits your independence. You can’t just jump in the car and nip to the shops anymore. My goal is to try and keep a level of independence and not let everybody do everything for me, but sometimes you don’t have any other choice and you have to ask for help. It’s a horrible thing to do, because then you become somebody else’s timescale. It has and does cause fiction between my wife and I, if I ask her to read something for me because its important, I do have means to do this but it can become very tiring. Sometimes she might be doing other stuff or trying to relax, so it becomes a burden which I don’t like being. I do go out on my own as I’m fortunate enough to have a guide dog, but still I can’t always do it.
You have to remember that you are only talking to one person about my experiences. I think I'm a person who's adjusted very well to my loss, but as I said there are people who take these things very badly, it can be very hard to come to terms with it.
I would say that the best way to do it is to accept that it has happened and to overcome it. I try fill my day, my week, and my year. I do a lot of volunteer work and deal with people who are still coming to terms with it. That happens a lot, several disabled people volunteer to help for disabled groups, which is good for the people who need help as the workers can understand better. It would be very difficult for you to put yourself in my position, just like if I was sighted it would be hard for me to be you.
There is no fortunately a lot of training material around, but a lot of it is common sense. As we have already touched upon with stuff like simple organization, things being in the right place etc. Also things like leaving doors open and the mobility issues like slops, steps, curbs etc. All of this common sense makes a huge difference to us, but sighted people don’t even think about this, why would they? Its about putting yourself in others positions a bit more.
A person who has just lost their sight would obviously be very traumatized, depending on the condition of the patient. Depending on how they have lost their sight, and the nature of accident. If it’s a sudden knock, they will be traumatized for years and it would take a while to come to terms with it. They would need a lot of support from their family and the system. Everybody around them would be confused as with what to do regarding you, but will obviously be caring by nature. You could be dead lucky, and get a nurse who was really understanding, but it would be luck. Regardless of any level of care that person won’t be equipped to deal with the situation. Unlike myself, I had time to adjust. I don’t think anything that I have said today would be going through the mind of a person who lost their sight in that manner. It is a very dramatic thing to happen to somebody. I don’t think you’d be able to get in touch with anybody today that has gone through that experience that would be willing to talk about it as it would be that traumatic.
The family is always the best comfort, due to natural instinct. As I said you might get a good doctor or nurse that understand but it doesn’t always happen.
This situation could be even more dramatic for your target audience. This would be because they haven’t seen much of life. I lost my sight at 50 so I had 50 years of sight, which is a lot of experience. A teenager would focus more on what they can’t do anymore, but the important thing is to think what you can do. If you put your mind to it you can do anything, but this is something that has to be learnt and won’t come instantly.
Computers and things like that have opened up a different world to all disabled people and life can be a lot better than you’d first expect, but you wouldn’t realize when the trauma takes place. You concentrate on all the downsides, can’t go to the pub anymore, can’t go to the football match etc.
It’s a very interesting area because there is a big gap. There’s the children going to school, who are looked after by mainstream education, but I get lots and lots of parents of people of your sort of age, sixth formers etc (our target group) where the support is lost. The parents ask where they can find support, what they can do, its almost as if they are forgotten about after mainstream education. They want the same sort of things that you do, i.e. the internet, mobile phones, mp3 players etc. There are ways around this, and if you can get past the initial thoughts of missing out in life, it’s amazing what you can do
Tuesday, 27 November 2007
Tutorial Three
During the tutorial we mainly spoke about the interview that we had previously had with Alan. We highlighted the points that we felt where key from the interview and tried to explain there relevance to our project.
We successfully booked MG.5 for the installation on the actual tuesday and also the night before which would allow us time to set the piece up. This was great news as we felt that we would definitely need this much time to do it. its booked from 4pm till 9pm, cool cool!!!
We successfully booked MG.5 for the installation on the actual tuesday and also the night before which would allow us time to set the piece up. This was great news as we felt that we would definitely need this much time to do it. its booked from 4pm till 9pm, cool cool!!!
Pressure Pad Tests
Obviously the main aspect of our proposed installation are pressure pads and how the user interacts with them. For this reason there are obviously several tests that need to be done, to make sure they work sufficiently for our needs. The tests that need to be done include, testing how the pads work and the response of the IPAC card over longer distances (this will help to determine how many props we have in the room), testing how they lie on the floor including how they can be taped to the floor without effecting the sensitivity of the pad.
We also need to test different blind folds, looking into whether a gauze would work better than a complete black one, following what the dude said in the interview.
The pressure pads seemed to respond as well with the longer wires (10m) than with the short wires. However, from the tests we realised that the pads weren't amazingly responsive.
We also need to test different blind folds, looking into whether a gauze would work better than a complete black one, following what the dude said in the interview.
The pressure pads seemed to respond as well with the longer wires (10m) than with the short wires. However, from the tests we realised that the pads weren't amazingly responsive.
Monday, 26 November 2007
Blindfold's
We had previously planned to use a blacked out room for the piece. However, after talking to alan we decided to change this. The interview with Alan had furthered the notion that had been previously highlighted in our research that the majority of blind people don't actually see black and in fact most still see something, ranging from sections of light to outlines of objects. As a result we decided that it was important to run some test's on blindfolds. We tried a variety, ranging from a complete black out one to a single layer gauze.
Sunday, 25 November 2007
Crimson Room
In our tutorial with Peter on Tuesday he suggested us to look into a game called 'Crimson Room' by Toshimitsu Takagi.'The objective of the game is to explore the room by looking for clues to 'unlock' the door in the room. This game is entertaining and frustrating at the same time.You are able to collect keys and other things that allow you to unlock clues and such.The idea and concept have similarities to ours however we are not intending to make it so users find clues. we Just want them 'experience.' I really liked the idea of the game though and it does give you an idea on how people will approach/do things in the room.
In our hospital environment we want it to make it so that if the user goes straight to say pad 2 then it will give a different reaction to if the user goes to pad 1 then pad 2. The idea is so that it will trigger different reactions for users to hear or see. We both hope that users will have a totally new 'experience' in the room and to have the user feeling the privilege of having their sight.
Having played 10 minutes of 'Crimson Room' i gave up unlocking!
have a go, below!
In our hospital environment we want it to make it so that if the user goes straight to say pad 2 then it will give a different reaction to if the user goes to pad 1 then pad 2. The idea is so that it will trigger different reactions for users to hear or see. We both hope that users will have a totally new 'experience' in the room and to have the user feeling the privilege of having their sight.
Having played 10 minutes of 'Crimson Room' i gave up unlocking!
have a go, below!
(C) 2004, Toshimitsu Takagi,(http://crimson-room.com)
Saturday, 24 November 2007
Janet Cardiff
Cardiff layers sounds over the real perceptions one experience of different types and tech textures of space.
Cardiff's work explores how technology impacts on our consciousness. She has time-based fictional works that are experienced by participants who have headset attached to a Discman or DV Walkman and follow pre-recorded instructions that lead them into open-ended and ambiguous narratives.
There are similar contrast between her work and ours because of the headphones which allows to hear what is happening. However we are doing it in a different entirely environment. Through research and development we know how dramatic it can be for anyone to go blind. So we don't want anyone who goes in there feeling scared
There were a couple of works that we looked into that we thought were related in a way of using headphones as the main narrative to the story of her works. The way in which she uses sound is more for normal people.
Cardiff's work explores how technology impacts on our consciousness. She has time-based fictional works that are experienced by participants who have headset attached to a Discman or DV Walkman and follow pre-recorded instructions that lead them into open-ended and ambiguous narratives.
There are similar contrast between her work and ours because of the headphones which allows to hear what is happening. However we are doing it in a different entirely environment. Through research and development we know how dramatic it can be for anyone to go blind. So we don't want anyone who goes in there feeling scared
There were a couple of works that we looked into that we thought were related in a way of using headphones as the main narrative to the story of her works. The way in which she uses sound is more for normal people.
Thursday, 22 November 2007
What is next?
The next few steps in the project are or need to include:
* Making the flash side of the project
* Start to test it
* Test Long Wires
* Decide on the sounds that will be triggered
* Look into headphones suitable for the piece
* Making the flash side of the project
* Start to test it
* Test Long Wires
* Decide on the sounds that will be triggered
* Look into headphones suitable for the piece
Wednesday, 21 November 2007
The Regent Street Lights
Nokia has sponsored the Regent Street lights as part of a campaign to advertise the imminent arrival of its flagship London store. The lights were designed by United Visual Artists, who have worked with the P2 Group to create the 14 space-age-looking “light clusters” that make a pleasant break from the Disney-themed displays that normally grace London’s busiest shopping streets at Christmas time.
The lights are obviously attractive in a space age way, but the more impressive thing is that they are interactive. The lights are designed to react to the movement of people walking beneath them via motion cameras, and change formation depending upon the amount of pedestrians in the street. In addition, they will respond to environmental factors such as wind speed, weather and sunlight levels. And if this weren’t enough, Nokia and Wieden + Kennedy have also considered the environmental impact of the displays, using low energy LED cores and making them 100% recyclable.
The lights are obviously attractive in a space age way, but the more impressive thing is that they are interactive. The lights are designed to react to the movement of people walking beneath them via motion cameras, and change formation depending upon the amount of pedestrians in the street. In addition, they will respond to environmental factors such as wind speed, weather and sunlight levels. And if this weren’t enough, Nokia and Wieden + Kennedy have also considered the environmental impact of the displays, using low energy LED cores and making them 100% recyclable.
Tuesday, 20 November 2007
Tutorial Two
We had another tutorial with Peter today in which we discussed our progression and an queries we had. Following the talk we understood that we needed to be progressing through the project at a faster rate, and that some careful planning was needed in order to be successful. In the tutorial we had discussed the expenses behind the project and how they would effect the piece, in terms of how many props we would be able to have in the room.
Our original idea was to have at least three beds in the room, then due to expense issues we were limited to two. We imagined the room to look like the diagram above. However, talking this through with Peter we highlighted that there may be a problem with the IPAC card and its response to the pressure pads far away, with long lengths of wire between them. This will obviously be something that we will have to test in order to see if its possible or not. The other problem is that the bigger the room the more potential there is that the user will become lost in the piece and just wonder around without actually setting anything off. For these reasons we are currently considering the possibility of decreasing the size of the project and only including one bed in the piece. This will be something that we will have to give extensive thought to.
Our original idea was to have at least three beds in the room, then due to expense issues we were limited to two. We imagined the room to look like the diagram above. However, talking this through with Peter we highlighted that there may be a problem with the IPAC card and its response to the pressure pads far away, with long lengths of wire between them. This will obviously be something that we will have to test in order to see if its possible or not. The other problem is that the bigger the room the more potential there is that the user will become lost in the piece and just wonder around without actually setting anything off. For these reasons we are currently considering the possibility of decreasing the size of the project and only including one bed in the piece. This will be something that we will have to give extensive thought to.
Monday, 19 November 2007
Interview Details
Through contact with the Middlesex Association for the Blind we have managed to organise an interview with a blind person for Monday 26th of November at 11am. We are looking forward to the chance to gain useful information and input into our project. Before hand we knew that it would be very important that we were clear of what we would ask during the session. We decided upon the following:
Friday, 16 November 2007
Diana Gromala
We were interested in a piece of Diana Gromala piece of work called Living
Book of the Senses. Users war a headset/head-tracker/colour camera system that enables them to see physical reality enhanced with virtual reality overlay. The camera inputs images/patterns and feeds them back into the software which then displays digital information associated with the physical markers onto the headset. As the user simultaneously interact with the book in multiple physical sates to express resulting changes in narrative.
With the work she done on 'Book of the Senses' was all about the headphones and how it moved around with the narrative.
It is related to our project because of how the work is using headphones to project to users what narrative it could be.
Book of the Senses. Users war a headset/head-tracker/colour camera system that enables them to see physical reality enhanced with virtual reality overlay. The camera inputs images/patterns and feeds them back into the software which then displays digital information associated with the physical markers onto the headset. As the user simultaneously interact with the book in multiple physical sates to express resulting changes in narrative.
With the work she done on 'Book of the Senses' was all about the headphones and how it moved around with the narrative.
It is related to our project because of how the work is using headphones to project to users what narrative it could be.
Thursday, 15 November 2007
Hospital Supplies
Having spoken to numerous companies regarding the hire of the props that we would need for the piece, its looking like the most suitable will be prop companies. Where quotes have been around:
Beds- £60 each
Tables- £20 each
Drips + Bag- £20 each
Screens- £25 each
Lighting Panels- £30 each
This could amount to alot of money, but would be worth it for the authenticity of the piece. However, we still need to contact the hospitals regarding the issue.
Beds- £60 each
Tables- £20 each
Drips + Bag- £20 each
Screens- £25 each
Lighting Panels- £30 each
This could amount to alot of money, but would be worth it for the authenticity of the piece. However, we still need to contact the hospitals regarding the issue.
Monday, 12 November 2007
The Blind Room
Having decided on what would happen within the room in terms of a hospital narrative, we needed to make a move regarding the props that will be present in the room. These will obviously have to be in-fitting with the hospital theme, hospital beds, drips etc. The first move to try and get hold of this sort of material would be to contact hospital suppliers, easily accessible through yellow pages etc and then to try to contact actual hospitals themselves, and in particular the maintenance departments within the hospitals. We considered the maintenance departments because obviously hospitals wouldn't be willing to just hand over perfectly good beds to us, especially considering the bed shortages currently in NHS. The maintenance departments may have access to broken beds and equipment that could be fixed to a level suitable for the piece, as obviously the equipment in the room does not need to be to the high standard that you would expect in a hospital. Northwick Park hospital would be an ideal resource due to its location, as any equipment borrowed would be easily transportable.
Friday, 9 November 2007
Examples
Dans Le Noir:
Guests are led to a pitch-black dining room and served food that they cannot see. They are guided by blind waiters. Many supporters include charities for the blind, who believe that it will open up other senses and liberate their tastebuds.
Edouard de Broglie, the man behind the British venture after launching the Paris restaurant, said his interest was in the sensory, not the social aspect of dining.
"The preconception of what food tastes like because of how it looks is gone," he said. "All your other senses are abruptly awoken and you taste the food like you have never tasted it before."
Yet Dans le Noir, which opened in Paris more than a year ago, remains packed most nights, serving three courses for £39 per person, without wine. The Independent on Sunday visited it last week to discover what the attraction of eating under cover of darkness is.
We made our choices from the menu before shuffling into the blacked-out room in single file, hands placed on the shoulder of the person in front. Immediately, the world felt both infinite and claustrophobic, as we found our seats. But with a gentle reassuring touch, the waiter, Benoit, explained that there was a napkin, knife and fork and an unbreakable glass on the table. Then he disappeared.
You cannot signal your waiter, but calling his name brings him to back to your side. Soon, the food arrived. With our hands, we discovered that the vegetables and scallops had been neatly presented, which all seemed rather pointless.
The pudding - chocolate fondant and ice-cream, apparently - left us perplexed. It could have been anything mousse-like. Our tastebuds may well have been aroused, but they were confused. After an hour and a half, we were desperate to return to the people and colours outside.
But the owners of Dans le Noir are confident that it will be a huge success in the UK. And it has already won praise from the Royal National Institute for the Blind and Action for Blind People for creating jobs for the blind.
The chef, his team of three, and a handful of front-of-house staff can see. But the 10 waiters are all officially registered blind, and have been subjected to a rigorous training regime.
Nicolas Chartier, project manager of the London branch, insisted that diners would have nothing to fear from blind waiters carrying hot dishes.
"It may seem, at first, a recipe for disaster, but the waiters are highly skilled," he said. He added that diners would learn about life as a blind person. "The waiters show us what it is like to experience their world," he said.
"When you cannot see, you depend on the waiter to guide you, so a special relationship develops between customers and the blind. It makes you rethink everything."
Guests are led to a pitch-black dining room and served food that they cannot see. They are guided by blind waiters. Many supporters include charities for the blind, who believe that it will open up other senses and liberate their tastebuds.
Edouard de Broglie, the man behind the British venture after launching the Paris restaurant, said his interest was in the sensory, not the social aspect of dining.
"The preconception of what food tastes like because of how it looks is gone," he said. "All your other senses are abruptly awoken and you taste the food like you have never tasted it before."
Yet Dans le Noir, which opened in Paris more than a year ago, remains packed most nights, serving three courses for £39 per person, without wine. The Independent on Sunday visited it last week to discover what the attraction of eating under cover of darkness is.
We made our choices from the menu before shuffling into the blacked-out room in single file, hands placed on the shoulder of the person in front. Immediately, the world felt both infinite and claustrophobic, as we found our seats. But with a gentle reassuring touch, the waiter, Benoit, explained that there was a napkin, knife and fork and an unbreakable glass on the table. Then he disappeared.
You cannot signal your waiter, but calling his name brings him to back to your side. Soon, the food arrived. With our hands, we discovered that the vegetables and scallops had been neatly presented, which all seemed rather pointless.
The pudding - chocolate fondant and ice-cream, apparently - left us perplexed. It could have been anything mousse-like. Our tastebuds may well have been aroused, but they were confused. After an hour and a half, we were desperate to return to the people and colours outside.
But the owners of Dans le Noir are confident that it will be a huge success in the UK. And it has already won praise from the Royal National Institute for the Blind and Action for Blind People for creating jobs for the blind.
The chef, his team of three, and a handful of front-of-house staff can see. But the 10 waiters are all officially registered blind, and have been subjected to a rigorous training regime.
Nicolas Chartier, project manager of the London branch, insisted that diners would have nothing to fear from blind waiters carrying hot dishes.
"It may seem, at first, a recipe for disaster, but the waiters are highly skilled," he said. He added that diners would learn about life as a blind person. "The waiters show us what it is like to experience their world," he said.
"When you cannot see, you depend on the waiter to guide you, so a special relationship develops between customers and the blind. It makes you rethink everything."
Tuesday, 6 November 2007
Premonition (2007)
In looking at the Afternoon story, it reminded us of a movie called Premonition (2007).
This was a similar story line that involved a housewife who in a depressive state figures out that her husband is dead the day she wakes up, then awakens the next day to find him alive and well at home. Although this isn't exactly what we are dealing with for our project, it was something that made me think about other ideas.
Afternoon: A Story by Michael Joyce
After consulting with Peter we looked at a electronic computer based fiction piece called Afternoon, a story; by Michael Joyce.
This story is about a technical writer Peter, embarking his afternoon with a premonition that the ruins of a car he saw hours, initially might have be held by his former wife.
Afternoon, is a opulent and effusive review of the twisted movement of knowing and reminisces. This allows to connect and unravel lives of its postmodern individuals.
With afternoon story, we have adapted a similar way. This relates to our project in a way that we want users to have a different pathway (movement) wherever the user decides to go. It will have two sides of the story and which ever movement you choose you will end up with a different voice.
With our room we will be planning so that when someone presses pad 2 first then it will be different to then if you press on pad 1 then 2. so in it will be contrasting. It will then allow the user to trigger sound differently.
We are doing this because we want this to be as interesting as it can be by providing different voice when stepping on different pads. This will allow the participant to have a different experience for each pad pressed.
With afternoon story, we have adapted a similar way.
Saturday, 3 November 2007
Statement of Intent
Following the questions that we asked ourselves after the tutorial and before the presentation about our idea we needed to be more direct and precise with our idea. As a result we produced a statement of intent:
Once you’ve lost a Sense, What Are You Left With?
Imagine what it would be like to be blind? This is extremely difficult, even for the most imaginative, because how could you possible imagine a life without something that has been there since birth? Our project sets out to give the user an experience of becoming blind, and the confusion surrounding it. The piece will be set in a hospital environment, following a car crash, in which the user has become blind.
The users will be several different students from around university. An individual will enter the room one at a time. The idea behind the individuality is an attempt to highlight the lonely experience that many people who have become blind feel. We thought that a hospital experience would add to the confusion, as the user wouldn’t understand what had happened and why they were there until later into the piece.
The user will enter a room, which will be pitch black where they will soon realize that they have been in a car crash and that their family has been admitted to intensive care in a critical condition. As the user moves around the space, obviously disorientated by the lack of sight, they will trigger different sensors (a series of pressure pads), which will in turn reveal more about the crash and what has happened to the user. The sensors will either trigger a sound, which will reveal further information about the narrative, i.e. conversations with doctors. The other sensors will trigger a rapid flash of slight light across the walls of the room. Many blind are not totally blind and can in fact see either specks or movement in light. We also decided that a quick movement in light would add to the disorientation of the user, adding to the frustration of not being able to see. The sensors will be hidden in several tradition hospital props, e.g. hospital beds, surgical counters, drips etc. Most of the piece’s in the room will have sensors attached which can be triggered by the user engaging with them in a certain way, i.e. lying down on a bed will start sounds that will correspond with a different member of the family.
We decided to use a dramatic situation in the piece in order to fully submerge the user into the piece, as oppose to random sounds being triggered and the user not really knowing what is happening. Through conditional statements the user can progress through the situation, so if they move to somewhere in the hospital before they go somewhere else they will find out certain information that wouldn’t have been accessible without going to the first position in the room.
As this is a dramatic situation that involves the user, i.e. they have lost their sight in the crash; the user will take up a partially acted role in the situation; their movements around the scene will determine what they learn has happened. The piece makes it possible for different users to take different things from the piece, as if they take a different route they may miss certain parts of information that somebody else may receive.
Once you’ve lost a Sense, What Are You Left With?
Imagine what it would be like to be blind? This is extremely difficult, even for the most imaginative, because how could you possible imagine a life without something that has been there since birth? Our project sets out to give the user an experience of becoming blind, and the confusion surrounding it. The piece will be set in a hospital environment, following a car crash, in which the user has become blind.
The users will be several different students from around university. An individual will enter the room one at a time. The idea behind the individuality is an attempt to highlight the lonely experience that many people who have become blind feel. We thought that a hospital experience would add to the confusion, as the user wouldn’t understand what had happened and why they were there until later into the piece.
The user will enter a room, which will be pitch black where they will soon realize that they have been in a car crash and that their family has been admitted to intensive care in a critical condition. As the user moves around the space, obviously disorientated by the lack of sight, they will trigger different sensors (a series of pressure pads), which will in turn reveal more about the crash and what has happened to the user. The sensors will either trigger a sound, which will reveal further information about the narrative, i.e. conversations with doctors. The other sensors will trigger a rapid flash of slight light across the walls of the room. Many blind are not totally blind and can in fact see either specks or movement in light. We also decided that a quick movement in light would add to the disorientation of the user, adding to the frustration of not being able to see. The sensors will be hidden in several tradition hospital props, e.g. hospital beds, surgical counters, drips etc. Most of the piece’s in the room will have sensors attached which can be triggered by the user engaging with them in a certain way, i.e. lying down on a bed will start sounds that will correspond with a different member of the family.
We decided to use a dramatic situation in the piece in order to fully submerge the user into the piece, as oppose to random sounds being triggered and the user not really knowing what is happening. Through conditional statements the user can progress through the situation, so if they move to somewhere in the hospital before they go somewhere else they will find out certain information that wouldn’t have been accessible without going to the first position in the room.
As this is a dramatic situation that involves the user, i.e. they have lost their sight in the crash; the user will take up a partially acted role in the situation; their movements around the scene will determine what they learn has happened. The piece makes it possible for different users to take different things from the piece, as if they take a different route they may miss certain parts of information that somebody else may receive.
Friday, 2 November 2007
Research Ideas!!!
We are hoping to find similar artists who do similar projects. Interviews will give us an idea of what to research on so we hope to have progress on interviewing and finding out information soon.
Thursday, 1 November 2007
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